After the Breach Podcast

We are back!  Sara and Jeff found time to connect for a new episode to talk about some of the latest amazing sightings and our upcoming photo workshop & all day tours on September 23rd and 24th.
We talk and tell stories throughout the episode about how many different groups of orcas have been in the area over the last few months. We share a brief update on the brothers from Episode 15 and share the latest in the ongoing saga of T65A5, Indy, who became entangled in crab gear. He freed himself and resumed his role as social butterfly of the Salish Sea. 
We also talk about a new calf with the 75Bs and who might be the mom. And T63, "Chainsaw" has made an unusual late summer appearance. 
We finish the episode with teasing some thoughts on upcoming epoxides and our offseason plans to see whales around the world.
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.

On this episode of After the Breach podcast, hosts and professional guides, Jeff Friedman and Sara Shimazu, talk about a recent interesting encounter they had on May 20th with two brothers from the Bigg’s killer whale population, T125A and T128. Also joining us is returning guest, Monika Wieland Shields from the Orca Behavior Institute (OBI) who was also out on the water and provides her own observations from that day.
Starting out the episode the three talk about the latest sightings in the Salish Sea. It has been a busy spring and there has been a lot happening. We’ve had some of our more famous humpback whales return, tons of Bigg’s killer whales sightings, and even J-pod returned just before the end of May! Monika shares some interesting insights courtesy of OBI.
On May 20th, two killer whales were reported south of San Juan Island in the eastern Strait of Juan de Fuca. The two were quickly identified as T125A and T128. These boys belong to an interesting family of four, led by their mother T125. In 2015 the matriline was seen in the Salish Sea for the first time in 22 YEARS. They were around for a few days but then disappeared again. Since then these two brothers seem to have dispersed from their mom and have been making annual forays into the area where they’ve quickly become whale watching favorites. They usually travel fairly tight together but last month when they were seen they were traveling in the general vicinity of each other but separated over a mile from the other as they traveled north into Rosario Strait.
Once there they came together briefly before separating again. T128 went into the inner San Juan Islands through Thatcher Pass while T125A continued up Rosario Strait. When Jeff and Monika caught up with T128 he was not really going anywhere and was circling on the west side of Blakely Island. What they did notice right away was that he had some pretty deep rake marks from another killer whale on his dorsal fin!
Meanwhile T125A was continuing up Rosario Strait where Sara got on scene with him. He quickly turned and headed back down the strait in the direction he had come from and started vocalizing and pushing a lot of water as he came up to the surface, sometimes rolling and slapping his dorsal fin or tail lobbing. It really seemed like he was trying to be loud and obvious as to where he was.
Jeff reported that T128 turned and actually went back out into Rosario Strait where he would have heard his brother and then quickly turned and went back into the inner islands. He was last seen heading west past Lopez Island ferry terminal and T125A was left still heading south in Rosario Strait.
There’s a lot of room for speculation and human interpretation into what happened here, if anything. Did the two brothers have an argument and needed some time apart? Was T125A the culprit to those rake marks on his brother? There are so many questions and we can only guess as to what may have happened. We had hoped they would show up the next day but they disappeared overnight and haven’t been seen since.
That is until a few days before we were going to post this episode; guess who showed up!? The brothers, reunited, and in the case of T128, all healed! Where were they the last three weeks? Did they reunite the night of the 20th or did they take some more time apart?
We have an upcoming photography workshop in September! Details are available on our website www.afterthebreachpodcast.com or you can send us an email at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com. It’s September 23rd and 24th and we will spend each day on the water with catered lunches and a ton of information to share!
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-15-brothers
 
Links mentioned in this episode:
Orca Behavior Institute blog post about the encounter with the brothers, T128 and T125A
Vocalizations from T125A, recorded by Sara Hysong-Shimazu from an above-water hydrophone speaker
Map of the travels of T125A and T128 during this encounter
Photos mentioned in this episode:
 

The collaboration between whale watching companies in the Pacific Whale Watch Association (PWWA) and other groups makes whale watching in the inland waters of Washington state and British Columbia unique, resulting in some of the most responsible whale watching on the planet. Erin Gless, the executive director of the Pacific Whale Watch Association, joins us to discuss the origins of the PWWA and the special collaboration that takes place on the water to promote responsible whale watching, education, research and conservation.   
But first we share some of recent sightings from our whale watching tours with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching in the San Juan Islands. We've been seeing more humpbacks as they are returning to their summer feeding waters in the Salish Sea, including several encounters with Divot (BCX1057) and Zephyr (BCZ0414). On a few of those encounters the mom and daughter were traveling together. We also discuss encounters with large groups of Bigg's killer whales, highlighting a day where we watched a group of 19 killer whales traveling hard against a strong tide in the narrow part of San Juan Channel. Included in this group were iconic whales T87 (Harbeson) and T63 (Chainsaw). Photos included below. We wrap up the latest sightings from our encounter seeing a big family reunion with T65, T63, the T65As and T65Bs. Later in this episode we talk about this entire family in more detail.
We turn the discussion to responsible whale watching and welcome Erin, who has been working in the whale watch community in various locations since 2008 and is currently the executive director of the Pacific Whale Watch Association. Erin talks with us about the origins of the PWWA and how it currently represents 30 companies over a large geographic range, spanning from Seattle in the south to Telegraph Cove, BC to the north, and Port Renfrew to the west. We discuss at length the unique nature of the collaboration between companies and how this differs from whale watching in many parts of the world. The discussion includes how this collaboration creates responsible whale watching practices and makes this region such a popular whale watching spot, with different groups and species of whales being documented on an almost a daily basis. We also talk about how this collaboration spans outside PWWA with other whale watching associations, ferries, commercial shipping, researchers and others.
We then discuss data collection being done by PWWA operators, including sentinel actions, which are proactive steps taken on the water to protect whales and other wildlife throughout the shared waters of the Salish Sea. 
We wrap up our discussion with Erin by talking about how to find and choose a responsible whale watching company in other parts of the world. 
We conclude the episode by introducing a new segment called “Meet the Matrilines” in which we will be talking in detail about a specific family of Bigg's killer whales in each episode. This episode’s matriline is one that we often mention in our latest sightings, the T65 family tree, which include T65, her presumed son, T63, her oldest daughter T65A and her 5 kids, and her youngest daughter T65B and her 3 kids.
We will be holding a photography workshop / all day whale watching & wildlife tour on Saturday, September 23rd and Sunday, September 24th. You can sign up for one day or both. We will be on the water all day(6-8 hours) and the price includes catering, photography instruction, and whale ID tips. It will be a lot of fun. If you are interested please email us at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-14-responsible-whale-watching
 
Links mentioned in this epsisode:
Pacific Whale Watch Association: https://www.pacificwhalewatchassociation.com/
PWWA Sightings & Sentinel Action Reports: https://www.pacificwhalewatchassociation.com/annualreports
 
Photos mentioned in this episode:
Iconic Bigg's killer whales T87 born est 1962 (Harbeson) left, and T63 (Chainsaw) born 1978 right. Photo by Jeff Friedman
 
Bigg's killer whales pushing against tide in San Juan Channel. Photo by Jeff Friedman.
 
Sentinel action: removing discarded fishing gear from the water. Photo by PWWA.
 
Sentinel action: whale warning flag for other vessels. Photo by PWWA
 
Shared waters: Bigg's killer whales & BC ferry. Photo by Sara Shimazu
 
Shared waters: Bigg's killer whales & Washington ferry. Photo by Sara Shimazu
 
Shared waters: Cruise ship with humpback whale. Photo by Ellie Sawyer
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Following up on our last episode where we discussed the low genetic diversity of Antarctic Type D killer whales, in this episode we chat about another recently published  genetics paper that focuses on killer whale populations in the Northeast Pacific, including Southern Resident, Northern Resident, Alaskan Resident, Offshore and Bigg's killer whales. Joining us for this discussion is returning guest Monika Wieland Shields, co-founder and director of Orca Behavior Institute. 
 
But first we share some recent sighting stories because so much is happening on the water and we continue to see large groups of Bigg's killer whales in the area. Sara and Jeff ran an all day tour last weekend with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching and spent time with a group of 19 whales from several families, including the T036As, T049A1, T124As, T124C, T125A, T128, and the T065Bs, who had a new calf by her side.
 
There are so many young whales in the Bigg's population and on this particular encounter, over 25% of the whales were under the age of 3. We discuss the contrast between the number of Bigg's v Southern Resident killer whales under the age of 10 and how this is stunning when seen visually (see image under photos).
 
We also discuss a recent sea lion hunt right outside of Friday Harbor with the T018s with the T049As, and an interesting encounter with the T046s and T046Bs where T046 herself was not present.
 
We then turn the conversation to the recently published paper, "Inbreeding depression explains killer whale population dynamics." Monika leads the discussion about inbreeding depression, which is defined as reduced biological fitness that results from breeding between related individuals. The primary finding of the study is that both males and females are less likely to reach age 40 if they have a higher inbreeding coefficient. The Southern Resident killer whales lack of recovery is due, in part, to their lack of genetic diversity compared to the other populations in the Northeast Pacific, which have all been increasing in population. We discussed the role of the captures for marine parks and how this created a population bottleneck. We also discuss other factors hindering Southern Resident recovery and what can be done to address the factors that are within our control.
 
We also talk about some of the fascinating supplemental information in the paper, including updated paternity information and effective population sizes.
 
We conclude the episode by announcing our After the Breach Photo Workshop with Sara & Jeff. We will be holding the workshop on Saturday, September 23rd and Sunday, September 24th. You can sign up for one day or both. We will have all day tours (6-8 hours) each day, including catering, photography & whale ID tips, and a lot of fun. If you are interested please email us at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
 
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-13-inbreeding-depression-and-killer-whales
 
Links mentioned in this episode:
Orca Behavior Institute: https://orcabehaviorinstitute.org/
Maya's Legacy Whale Watching: https://sanjuanislandwhalewatch.com/
Inbreeding depression explains killer whale population dynamics: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-023-01995-0 
 
Photos mentioned in this episode:
 
T065B with new calf T065B3. Photo by Sara Shimazu
 
T019B. Photo by Sara Shimazu

Sub-Antarctic "type D" killer whales are a very distinctive and rarely encountered ecotype of orcas found in the offshore waters of the Southern Ocean. Jared Towers, director of Bay Cetology, joins us in this episode to discuss his fascinating encounter with a group of "type D" killer whales and a recently published paper, “Type D” killer whale genomes reveal long-term small population size and low genetic diversity.   
 
Before jumping into the discussion about his adventures to find "type D" killer whales, Jared and Jeff tell a story about a humpback whale mom and fresh newborn calf, maybe only hours old, they encountered offshore of Baja this winter on their charter with Apparent Winds. Jeff forgot to tell this story in episode 11, and since Jeff and Jared were there for the encounter this winter, they wanted to share this unique experience.
 
We then talk to Jared about his background, growing up in Alert Bay, BC, where he lives currently working with Bay Cetology as well as other organizations. After talking a bit about Bay Cetology and some of Jared's other encounters, he tells us about the challenges in finding "type D" killer whales and the conditions he had to endure in a 75 foot sail boat in the Southern Ocean.
 
Their persistence paid off and Jared recounts the story of how they came across a group of approximately 30 very curious "type D's" as the whales checked out the boat and the line of hydrophones and GoPros being towed behind. They were able to get the first fresh tissue biopsy samples so they could see how they compare to all other Southern Hemisphere killer whales. 
 
Jared talks about the 3 individuals biopsied, a mother and 2 probable full siblings. We talk with Jared about the paper, the ecotype's low genetic diversity and the bottleneck they experienced in the past. Jared points out and discusses that in spite of their challenges, they have found a way to become wide spread and perhaps abundant compared to other inbred populations. 
 
We conclude the episode discussing recent sightings in the Salish Sea. Sara and Jeff are running tours daily with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching and highlight some recent encounters with large groups of Bigg's killer whales, including the iconic T63, Chainsaw. 
 
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-12-type-d-killer-whales
 
Links mentioned in this episode:
Bay Cetology: https://baycetology.org
Bay Cetology Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/baycetology
Cetacean Sessions: https://www.crowdcast.io/@cetacean-sessions
https://www.crowdcast.io/@cetacean-sessions
Apparent Winds: https://apparentwinds.org
“Type D” killer whale genomes reveal long-term small population size and low genetic diversity: https://academic.oup.com/jhered/article/114/2/94/7086686?
 
Video & photos mentioned in this episode:
 
 
Type D Killer Whale. Photo by Jared Towers
 
T063, Chainsaw. Photo by Jeff Friedman
 
T063, Chainsaw, with T049A1, Noah. Photo by Jeff Friedman

We are back on San Juan Island after our winter offseason. People often ask us what we do during our offseason. We go whale watching in other parts of the world! Daven joins us on this episode as we share stories of our offseason whale adventures. Between the three of us we traveled to the Canadian Arctic, Eastern Pacific off Mexico and the Sea of Cortez, the Southern Ocean off Australia, the Sliver Bank off the Dominican Republic, and Antarctica. 
 
Daven starts off the by sharing stories from his experiences in Greenland and the Canadian Arctic, highlighted by encounters with Northern bottlenose whales, Belugas, and a fleeting view of Narwhals. He also talks about spending two months in Antarctica seeing multiple species of baleen whales as well as different types of Antarctic killer whales. 
 
Our stories continue with Sara's adventures to Bremer Bay, Australia with Naturaliste Charters to see the killer whales of Bremer Canyon. These are a recently discovered population of approximately 300 orcas that are thought to be related to Antarctic type A killer whales. They primarily prey on beaked whales but also eat a varied diet that includes squid and tuna. Sara shares her stories from spending a month on the water with these whales while she collected data for the Orca Behavior Institute. 
 
Next, Jeff talks a bit about his last minute travels around the Baja Peninsula to sail one of the breeding areas for North Pacific Humpback whales. He also talks about a friendly Gray whale encounter in Magdalena Bay and a visit to the Museo de la Ballena in La Paz. 
 
Finally, Jeff and Sara discuss their return to the Sliver Bank, the largest breeding area for North Atlantic Humpback whales, 75 miles offshore of the Dominican Republic. They share highlights from snorkeling with Humpback whales while out with Conscious Breath Adventures. For even more information on what it's like to experience the Silver Bank, you can listen to Episode 7. 
 
There are several common themes throughout our discussions, including the remote locations of many of these special, wild places and the sometimes uncomfortable conditions that you have to endure to get there. But the payoff is life changing as evidenced by us choosing activities like this every offseason in the San Juan Islands.
 
Speaking of the San Juan Islands, our season has started and we are seeing amazing wildlife and whales. If you would like to join us on a tour you can get details and book your trip with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching. 
 
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/our-offseason-whales-around-the-world/
 
Photos mentioned in this episode:
Photo by Daven Hafey
 
Photo by Daven Hafey
 
Photo by Sara Hysong-Shimazu
 
Photo by Sara Hysong-Shimazu
 
Photo by Sara Hysong-Shimazu
 
Photo by Sara Hysong-Shimazu
 
Photo by Jeff Friedman
 
 

The award-winning 2022 documentary Corky is the story of world’s longest-held captive orca, the changing public sentiment about orcas in captivity, and the rise of sea sanctuaries. Christine Caruso, the producer and director of Corky joins us to discuss the film.
Corky is a member of the Northern Resident killer whale community and was captured on December 11, 1969. We intentionally published this episode on the anniversary of her capture and highly recommend the film. The film is as powerful and emotional as Blackfish, but it is the personal story of Corky.
We talk briefly about the Northern Residents, their similarities and differences from the Southern Residents that we see here in the San Juan Islands. They are two distinct populations of salmon-eating orcas.
Christine’s shares her background as a kindergarten teacher and tells the story of how she went from learning about Corky to making this amazing film.  It was her passion for Corky that lead her to the right people and the right places at the right times. 
We then discuss some of the moments from the film, and Corky’s life, that stood out for each of us. 
Christine talks about her move from Marineland of the Pacific to SeaWorld. Her tankmate, Orky, also a Northern Resident, was being removed from their tank first. Christine talks about how Corky desperately tried to get into the sling with him, not wanting to be separated. Sara recounted Corky and Orky’s daily sunlight ceremony, how they marked where the sun would rise each morning and celebrated. You gotta see the film to really get the mysticism of this. Jeff recounted a pivotal life changing encounter with a Northern Resident, A61, and learned in the film that he is Corky’s cousin.
Christine then talks about her experience of watching the audience go through Corky’s journey at the screening at the Friday Harbor Film Festival in October. The film won 2 awards at it’s first film festival, the Audience Choice awards for Tales from the Heart and On Demand Best Feature.
We conclude our conversation with Christine by talking about Corky’s future and the hope that she will be retired to a sanctuary, under human care, in her home waters. As featured in the film, there is already an ideal site waiting for her. We talk about what that would be like for Corky, to be able to feel the tides, the kelp beds, and be in acoustic range of her community. See links below how people can get involved and where you can see the film. Please watch the film and share with your friends. Help us to help Corky share her story.
At the end of the episode we talk about recent sightings and some previews to our upcoming episodes, including Sara’s winter adventure to Australia to spend time with the Bremer Canyon killer whales and our upcoming trip with CBA to the Silver Bank.
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-10-corky/
Links mentioned in this episode:
Corky documentary Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CorkyDocumentary
Double Bay Sanctuary: https://doublebaysanctuary.org/
Keiko the Untold Story: https://www.keikotheuntoldstory.com/
Listening to Whales: What the Orcas Have Taught Us, by Alexandra Morton: https://www.amazon.com/Listening-Whales-What-Orcas-Taught/dp/0345442881
OrcaLab: https://orcalab.org/
Bay Cetology: https://baycetology.org/
The Whale Sanctuary Project: https://whalesanctuaryproject.org/
Nonhuman Rights Project: https://www.nonhumanrights.org/
Photos
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Joining us as our guest, from Vancouver Island, is our friend Gary Sutton. Gary is a whale researcher with Ocean Wise Research and Bay Cetology. He is also a professional whale and wildlife guide. After recently returning from his field research season off northeast Vancouver Island and the central BC coast, Gary shares information about the focus of their research and tells some great stories about his time up there.The overarching goal of the research he is working on is to use photogrammetry to take photos and measure cranial fat deposits in Northern Resident killer whales and track changes over time to assess body condition and health. Gary talks about this research and what we can learn about whales using drones to take photos from above. As we do with all of our guests, we asked Gary to share some memorable encounters from his field season. Gary tells some great stories about seeing bubble-net feeding humpbacks and the first documented sighting of some famous California Bigg's killer whales in the inland waters of BC. We also discuss the latest sightings, including a new calf with the T37Bs and a rare winter Southern Resident killer whale superpod. We discuss how the Southern Residents are adapting to declines in their preferred prey availability and the changes we are seeing in their distribution and travel patterns.The episode concludes with an email from a listener in response to our discussions about humpbacks intervening in Bigg's killer whale predations on marine mammals. The email points out that hippos have been well documented to interrupt hunts on other animals as well. If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-0-orca-research-stories-latest-sightings/
 
Links mentioned in this episode:
Gary on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gary_j27/
Ocean Wise Research on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oceanwiseresearch/
Bay Cetology: https://baycetology.org/
Photos mentioned in this episode:
New calf with T37B. Photo by Jeff Friedman

On October 7, 2022 two families of Bigg's killer whales, the T065As and T099s, successfully hunted an adult Minke whale south of the San Juan Islands in Washington state. We were able to document the hunt as well as the hours long feeding behavior afterwards. Bigg's killer whales in the Salish Sea predominately prey on harbor seals, sea lions and porpoise.
This was an incredibly rare event to witness, and joining us as our guest to help tell the story of the minke takedown is friend and colleague, April Ryan. Along with Jeff and Sara, April is a captain and marine naturalist with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching in Friday Harbor. Truth be told we recorded episode 8 the night before the minke hunt. It was such a rare event that we had to reset and re-record. So the episode begins with part of the original recording where we discuss some recent sightings, including large aggregations of humpbacks. These aggregations are sometimes seen in the Salish Sea and can number between 50-100 whales. We also talk about some newly documented calves, including one Sara documented last week. 
After discussing the humpbacks April joins Sara and Jeff to recount the minke hunt. The minke whale was a known minke who we have seen on our tours. She was first documented in the Salish Sea in 1982, as an adult, making her approximately 50 years old. After this, we move on to answer some questions submitted by listeners about how we got here. How did we get into whale watching and find our way to San Juan Island. If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, photos and links, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-8-orcas-take-a-minke-whale/
 
Video from the minke hunt: Links from this episode:
Rare clash between two humpbacks and group of orcas
Orcas Take Down Minke Whale
Tour boat stunned as orcas take down large minke whale in Juan de Fuca Strait
Photos from this episode:
Humpback whale "Caspian" Photo by Sara Shimazu.
 
Humpback whale "Caspian" Photo by Sara Shimazu.
 
TO65As and T099s hunting minke whale. Photo by April Ryan.
 
T065As and T099s hunting minke whale. Photo by April Ryan.
 
T065As and T099s hunting minke whale. Photo by April Ryan.
 
T065As and T099s hunting minke whale. Photo by April Ryan.

The Silver Bank is the largest breeding ground for North Atlantic humpback whales. Gene Flipse, owner and operator of Conscious Breath Adventures, joins us to discuss and share stories from one of our favorite whale experiences, swimming with humpback whales on the Silver Bank.
The episode begins with Sara and Jeff discussing the latest sightings from our whale watching tours with Maya’s Legacy Whale Watching from Friday Harbor, Washington. There have been a lot of Bigg’s killer whales in the area over the last few weeks, including a day with 54 killer whales in 11 different groups. We’ve been seeing examples of topics we discussed in episode 6, especially the fascinating social dynamics within matrilines in this population.
We highlight two families from our recent sightings. First, we discuss the 124A2’s and 124A4’s, two young sisters who have been recently been traveling together along with their kids, separately from their mom and other siblings.  We also discuss an interesting split in the iconic matriline, the T18s, with T19 and T19B traveling separately from T18 and T19C. We also give a quick update on the saga of T65A5. We conclude the latest sightings by describing an epic evening tour watching the T49As, T19 and T19B hunting a large Steller sea lion.
In the second half of the episode we talk with Gene Flipse, owner and operator of Conscious Breath Adventures, about one of the most amazing and life changing whale watching experiences we have had, seeing and swimming with humpback whales on the Silver Bank.
Our discussion provides background on the Silver Bank and Conscious Breath Adventures’ trips to see and swim with humpback whales on the Silver Bank.
The Sanctuary for the Marine Mammals of the Dominican Republic was first established in 1986 and has been successfully managed since then. Only three permits have been issued to commercial operators, making it so exclusive that less than 700 people visit the Silver Bank each year.
We discuss the details of Conscious Breath Adventures trips and how respectful, in water encounters unfold, along with the methodical process used before swimmers can enter the water. We talk about what successful in water interactions are like and how humbling and powerful these encounters can be.  Throughout the discussion we each share stories of what it is like to be out there, from whale watching, swimming with moms and calves, and being in the water with a singing humpback whale.
We conclude with Gene telling us the multiple meanings behind the name of his company, Conscious Breath Adventures and Jeff and Sara talking about how these trips have changed their lives.
Note: Sara is running a photo workshop with Maya’s Legacy Whale Watching from Friday Harbor, WA on September 16th & 17th. There are a few spots remaining. Please contact us if you are interested!
If you are enjoying listening to our podcast, please follow/subscribe, leave us feedback/reviews and share with your friends! You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook and Youtube. Please send us feedback or questions at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com.
For complete show notes, links and photos, please visit our website: https://www.afterthebreachpodcast.com/e/episode-7-humpback-whales-of-the-silver-bank/
 
Links mentioned in this episode:
Conscious Breath Adventures: https://www.consciousbreathadventures.com/
Video of T124A2s and T124A4s hunting seals off Sucia Island: https://youtu.be/V8byd-iRZNE
Summary of one week with Conscious Breath Adventures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFBshgzZqMo
Trip video from a week on the Silver Bank: https://youtu.be/vm5oMi3yTGM
Highlights from the Silver Bank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiPjSwvlAt0
How an in water encounter unfolds: https://youtu.be/A6UIL0vkjCk
Drone footage from the Silver Bank: https://youtu.be/vQ5bx6O8tsw
Drone video of a mom and calf: https://youtu.be/ME5di6rOx40
Audio of whale songs from the Silver Bank: https://soundcloud.com/captgene/a-humpback-virtuoso
A chorus of humpback whales: https://soundcloud.com/captgene/a-chorus-of-humpback-whales
Photos mentioned in this episode:
T124A2's and T124A4's. Photo by Sara Shimazu
 
T49As, T19, T19B hunting a steller sea lion. Photo by Jeff Friedman
 
T123 hunting a steller sea lion in 2020,. Photo by Sara Shimazu.
 
T19B, After the Breach! Photo by Jeff Friedman