After the Breach Podcast
Welcome to After the Breach, a podcast for whale enthusiasts by whale enthusiasts. Join professional guides and whale watch captains Jeff Friedman and Sara Shimazu as they share their passion and love for whales.
Welcome to After the Breach, a podcast for whale enthusiasts by whale enthusiasts. Join professional guides and whale watch captains Jeff Friedman and Sara Shimazu as they share their passion and love for whales.
Episodes

Monday Jun 20, 2022
Episode 3 - West Coast Wild Salmnesia
Monday Jun 20, 2022
Monday Jun 20, 2022
Joining us as our guest this week is professional guide and captain Daven Hafey to discuss his new documentary film project Salmnesia. Daven has extensive field experience in wild places all over the planet including the Arctic, Alaska, Antarctica, and the San Juan Islands in Washington state.
We ask all our guests about memorable wildlife and whale encounters and Daven’s are well worth listening to. He spoke in detail about two amazing encounters in Antarctica that are so compelling. The first was seeing hundreds of whales feeding around an iceberg and the second was with a large, curious group of Antarctic small type B killer whales (Gerlache orcas).
The discussion includes details about the different types of Antarctic killer whales. Just like the orcas we encounter here in the San Juan Islands, there are distinct populations of killer whales in Antarctica. Type B2 killer whales (Gerlache orcas) frequently hunt penguins. Type B1 orcas are seen hunting seals and creating pressure waves to knock them off the ice flows. Type A killer whales target other species of whales. Type C killer whales live on the opposite side of Antarctica from the other and they are seen mostly hunting different species of fish. Finally, Type D orcas are very rarely documented and have been seen in open ocean.
After hearing about Daven’s encounters in Antarctica we discuss his documentary film project, Salmnesia. The concept of the documentary is based on the idea of generational amnesia -- how each generation assumes the conditions in which they are born into are normal. Because of generational amnesia, there is no reason to truly understand what once was, and this is very true today with the massive declines of west coast wild salmon. Salmnesia takes a unique approach with the belief that to know where we want to go, we must first remember what we’ve forgotten. The project is just getting off the ground and we talked about ways people can get involved and provide support.
We then turned the conversation to our latest sightings around Washington state in the San Juan Islands and around the Salish Sea. It has been an amazing spring. We’ve been seeing T63, “Chainsaw,” in June, experienced Bigg’s killer whales in unique, beautiful places, enjoyed the annual return of our famous Humpback Big Mama with her latest calf (number 7!), and a late May visit from J pod. We also talk about the saga of T65A5 leaving his mom and siblings to check out a lagoon in Port Angeles harbor.
Our next episode will drop on July 4th. If you would like to submit feedback or questions for us, we might read them on the next episode. Email us at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com or message us on Instagram. And please leave us comments, subscribe to our podcast, and share it with your friends!
Links Mentioned in this episode:
Salmnesia
Website
Facebook
GoFundMe
Elwha River & Dam Removal
Return of the River - A film about the largest dam removal project in the history of the United States, and the extraordinary effort to restore an eco-system and set a river free.
Penguin Being Chased by Killer Whales Hops on Tourist Boat
Photos mentioned in this episode:
Daven's encounter with Gerlache killer whales. Do you see the brim of Daven's hat?
Bigg's killer whale T100F open mouth spyhop. Photo by Jeff Friedman, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
Bigg's killer whale T63, "Chainsaw." Photo by Jeff Friedman, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching
Bigg's killer whales in Gerorgeson Pass, BC. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
J pod on the west side of San Juan Island. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu
2022 calf of Big Mama. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.

Friday May 13, 2022
Episode 2 – Two Distinct Populations of Killer Whales in the Salish Sea
Friday May 13, 2022
Friday May 13, 2022
Joining us as our guest this week is Monika Wieland Shields, co-founder and director of Orca Behavior Institute. In addition to talking with Monika about OBI's field research, we spoke about the two different ecotypes of killer whales we see in the waters around the San Juan Islands, the endangered fish-eating Southern Residents and the thriving marine mammal eating Bigg’s (formerly known as Transients). We discussed the changing trends in sightings of each population in the area and what is driving these changes.
Monika also shared some information about OBI’s new study about killer whales and vessels in the Salish Sea, offering a new perspective on factors influencing incident rates.
As we do on each episode we got into recent whale sightings around the San Juan Islands, including the fascinating, ongoing saga of young Bigg’s killer whale T34A1 switching families.
Our next episode will drop on May 30th. If you would like to submit feedback or questions to us we might read a few submissions on the next episode. Email us at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com or message us on Instagram.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Orca Behavior Institute
Website
Instagram
Facebook
YouTube
SoundCloud
Souhaut, Marie, and Monika W. Shields. 2021. “Stereotyped whistles in Southern Resident killer whales.” PeerJ 9:e12085
Killer whales and vessels in the Salish Sea: A new perspective on factors influencing incident rates
Photos mentioned in this episode:
Average days per month SRKWs and Bigg's killer whales are in the Salish Sea. Data compiled by the Orca Behavior Institute.
T34 matriline
T34A1 last sighting with family, August 22, 2021. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
T34A1 with T36 and T36Bs, September 2021. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
SRKW J41 as a calf 2005. Photo by Monika Wieland Shields.
SRKW J53 as a calf 2015. Photo by Jeff Friedman, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
New SRKW calf J59, 2022. Photo by Sara Hysong Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.

Friday Apr 22, 2022
Episode 1 - Intro & Spring Whale Sightings
Friday Apr 22, 2022
Friday Apr 22, 2022
We kicked off our first episode with an introduction to your hosts, Jeff and Sara, and the origins of “After the Breach.” We caught up with early 2022 encounters, beginning with Sara’s amazing experience with Risso’s dolphins, which are very rare in the inland waters of the Salish Sea. We discussed recent encounters with Bigg’s killer whales, Southern Resident killer whales and humpbacks. We also described some of our all-time most memorable encounters and what we are looking forward to this season.
Our next episode will drop on May 13th and will include guest Monika Weiland Shields, founder and director of Orca Behavior Institute.
If you’d like to submit questions to hosts Jeff and Sara and/or our guest Monika for episode 2, you can email us at afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com or message us on Instagram.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Read more about Sara's amazing encounter with Risso's dolphins from her blog post.
70+ Bigg's Killer Whales Seen in Salish Sea Thursday, New Single-Day Record
Naturalist, whale-watching guides astounded by humpback whale chasing after orcas in Salish Sea
Photos mentioned in this episode:
Risso's dolphins, rarely seen in the Salish Sea. Photo by Sara Shimazu, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
Sperm whale encounter from 2018. Photo by Jeff Friedman, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
Humpback whale "Valiant" with Bigg's killer whales. Photo by Ellie Sawyer, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.
Bigg's killer whale T65B in 2019 throwing a Steller sealion pelt. Photo by Jeff Friedman, Maya's Legacy Whale Watching.

About After the Breach
Join professional guides and whale watch captains Jeff Friedman and Sara Shimazu as they share their passion and love for whales, bringing you personal stories of recent whale sightings and encounters, research, news and interviews.
Based in Friday Harbor on San Juan Island, Washington, they have worked for years on the waters of Washington state and British Columbia with Maya's Legacy Whale Watching. They have also travelled around the world to places like Australia, Norway, and the Dominican Republic following their passion for whales and dolphins.
They are friends who love to tell stories and talk about whales and started this podcast to share their whale passion with fellow whales lovers around the globe.
Connect with Us
Email: afterthebreachpodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: @afterthebreach
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/afterthebreachpodcast
Sara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hysazu/
Jeff on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orcawild/






